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13:16 < ThatFunkyMunki> lol
13:16 < ThatFunkyMunki> wtf
13:16 < ThatFunkyMunki> i'm trying to force-quit grub
13:16 < ThatFunkyMunki> and it's not force quitting
13:17 < ThatFunkyMunki> ctrl z bitch!!!
13:17 < lofty306> huh?
13:17 < lofty306> ctrl c
13:17 < ThatFunkyMunki> same thing
13:17 < ThatFunkyMunki> nothing
13:17 < lofty306> or rather type quit
13:17 < ThatFunkyMunki> ctrl z stops the process
13:17 < ThatFunkyMunki> and i cant type quit
13:17 < lofty306> or rather type quit
13:17 < lofty306> or rather type quit
13:17 < ThatFunkyMunki> it's looking for my flopppy
13:17 < ThatFunkyMunki> that i dont have
13:18 < lofty306> are u configging grub?
13:18 < lofty306> or booting
13:18 < ThatFunkyMunki> i'm running "grub"
13:18 < ThatFunkyMunki> and it's saying
13:18 < ThatFunkyMunki> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00 (floppy), sector 4
13:18 < ThatFunkyMunki> and it's stopping
13:18 < ThatFunkyMunki> and it's not doing anything
13:18 < ThatFunkyMunki> and ctr c
13:18 < lofty306> never saw that b4
13:18 < ThatFunkyMunki> and ctr z arent doing anything
13:18 < lofty306> are u booting?
13:18 < ThatFunkyMunki> no
13:18 < ThatFunkyMunki> i'm running grub
13:18 < ThatFunkyMunki> from the command line
13:19 < lofty306> are u running the setup?
13:19 < ThatFunkyMunki> yes
13:19 < ThatFunkyMunki> but
13:19 < lofty306> k
13:19 < ThatFunkyMunki> it's looking for /dev/fdo
13:19 < ThatFunkyMunki> *fd0
13:19 < ThatFunkyMunki> and it's not working
13:19 < ThatFunkyMunki> as i dont even have one of the damn things
13:19 < lofty306> well u did something wrong
13:19 < ThatFunkyMunki> what can i do wrong
13:19 < lofty306> let it run
13:19 < ThatFunkyMunki> type in grub
13:19 < ThatFunkyMunki> that's it
13:20 < ThatFunkyMunki> there we go...
13:20 < lofty306> doh
NB:translation: How To Not Install Grub Step 1: Don't type grub command

rapsys> nsa: the package you need for unrar is unrar rpm
17:10 < nsa> crash3m: how does that help me?
nsa> err
17:11 < nsa> i just did the urpmi unrar
17:11 < crash3m> nsa: you said you couldnt find the app...I was trying to help you find it
17:12 < nsa> i still cant open .rar files
17:12 < nsa> :(
17:12 < nsa> double clicking it..right clicking to see if i can unrar...
17:13 < crash3m> nsa: ehhh try unrar thatfile.rar
17:13 < rapsys> nsa for opening .rar file you need unrar package installed and file-roller
17:13 < nsa> gave me list of params
17:13 < nsa> ???
17:13 < nsa> urpmi -?
17:13 < crash3m> man unrar
17:14 < HauntedUnix> nsa: now that you have unrar package, you can just use ark
17:14 < nsa> I cant.
17:14 < nsa> it works with .tar's
17:14 < nsa> but not .rar's
17:14 < nsa> for some reasdon.
17:14 < rapsys> I don't know if ark support it, but file-roller surport it I am sure of that...
17:14 < nsa> urmpi fileroller
17:14 < nsa> ?
17:14 < rapsys> file-roller
17:15 < rapsys> with a -
17:15 < aTypical> Hello everyone.
17:15 < HauntedUnix> nsa: now that you have the unrar package, ark will work fine..
17:15 < nsa> HauntedUnix: If it did, you think i'd be asked?
17:15 < nsa> *asking
17:15 < nsa> :(
17:15 < nsa> it doesnt work
17:15 < nsa> only with .tar's...not rars
17:15 < HauntedUnix> nsa: you got the unrar package properly installed with urpmi? and then tried ark? (restarted ark before trying)
17:15 < rapsys> nsa: INSTALL file-roller!!!!!!
17:15 < nsa> i am
17:15 < nsa> now
17:15 < nsa> :D
17:16 < nsa> lol
17:16 < nsa> still asks me what program
17:16 < nsa> to open it with
NB:translation: I'm guessing man tar wasn't working and double clicking in Linux WTF

21:19 < redphoenix> any1 have rpmdrake disapear all of a sudden
21:19 < redphoenix> i cant find it anymore
21:20 < redphoenix> i do a locate and all i find r the png files
21:20 < egibbs> didnt know that rpmdrake was a program
21:20 < DrPotato> use urpmi
21:20 < egibbs> might be in redhat
21:20 < redphoenix> i kno but somtimes i dont kno the names of the rpms
21:20 < redphoenix> that i want
21:21 < redphoenix> i search for it on rpmdrake
21:21 < egibbs> redphoenix: are you using mandrake?
21:21 < redphoenix> yes
21:21 < egibbs> why not use the package manager and search in groups?
21:22 < redphoenix> that is the pacage manager
21:22 < redphoenix> package*
21:22 < egibbs> its in the mandrake control center
21:22 < redphoenix> now it cant find the control center
21:22 < redphoenix> ......
21:23 < egibbs> are you running KDE?
21:23 < vern> if you have an idea of the name you can search. urpmq -y vnc, for example
21:23 * DrPotato puts on his helmet
21:23 < redphoenix> im running fluxbox
21:23 < redphoenix> im running fluxbox
21:24 < vern> mcc in terminal for mandrake control center
21:24 < McCheese> *At the computer convention* "Whatchu runnin' in that box?" "That's flux man."
21:24 < mesut> redphoenix if it is really disapeared then following command does nothing. find / -name "*drak*" -exec rm -f "{}" ;
21:24 < redphoenix> find: missing argument to `-exec'
21:25 < mesut> find / -name "*drak*" -exec rm -rf "{}" ;
21:26 < redphoenix> find: missing argument to `-exec'
21:26 < redphoenix> im doing copy and paste
21:27 < vern> redphoenix: what are you looking for?
21:27 < redphoenix> mandrake control center and rpmdrake
21:27 < redphoenix> they both disapeared
21:27 < vern> mcc in terminal for mandrake control center
21:27 < redphoenix> mcc not found
21:27 < vern> hm, try as root
21:28 < redphoenix> i did
NB:translation: I love it when ppl execute really bad commands as r00t

04:43 < egibbs> sorry - I am a GUI usr (kde) dont know if kdf has a console mode
NB:translation: Sorry, Shoot Me

06:24 < SantaClaus66> If I change something in my X-configuration, what's the fastest way to restart X ? I mean, if I do change my mouse - trying to get my touchpad to work on the laptop - how do I get Mandrake accept my changes ?
NB:translation: Yep and you call youself a linux user more like a Luser

00:38 < Zaecron> hiya
00:41 < Zaecron> no one here tonight? :(
00:47 <@sarumont> not really
00:48 <@sarumont> :P
00:51 < Zaecron> gHg t
00:52 < Zaecron> linux is making me mad :(
00:52 <@sarumont> why?
00:53 < Zaecron> i have a GeForce FX and i'm installing SuSe 9.0. the refresh rate and all is messed up :(
00:53 < Zaecron> i have like 8 mouses on my screen lol
00:56 < Zaecron> i can't find the place to change it :( Back in the day, I had RedHat 7 and it was an easy fix :P
00:58 < DoppelGanger|afk> aol and redhat
00:58 < DoppelGanger|afk> wow what are the chances he worships the devil
00:58 < Zaecron> i have SuSe now :P
00:58 < Zaecron> or hoped to have suse ;S
00:58 < Zaecron> and aol.. its my parents machine :P
00:58 < DoppelGanger|afk> uhuh
00:59 < Zaecron> []uGhz [O]u+ [L]o
00:59 < DoppelGanger|afk> and i assume you have been using redhat for what 5 yrs
00:59 < DoppelGanger|afk> oh yeah those flamer lol are annoying
00:59 < Zaecron> heh.. i used it for a few months :P
00:59 < DoppelGanger|afk> k rule one no one cares
00:59 < DoppelGanger|afk> rule two
00:59 < DoppelGanger|afk> what you need to do is configure X
01:00 < DoppelGanger|afk> rule three try this
01:00 < DoppelGanger|afk> /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config
01:00 < DoppelGanger|afk> be sure you know your monitor refresh rates and etc oh by teh way you have just been added to ignore list
01:02 Ignoring ALL from Zaecron
NB:translation: hmmm redhat user enough said

09:37 -!- newmedia [~c250200b@213.253.1.176] has joined #linuxforums
09:37 < newmedia> hello
09:39 < newmedia> can anyone walk me through how to get a programme to load on startup?
09:39 < newmedia> using mandrake 10
NB:translation: They labeled this one a moment of terror in the customer service handbook

02:35 -!- johan [~johan@d64-180-188-185.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #mandrake
02:35 < johan> got cdrom with various directories some of them containing pdf files id like to copy the pdf files to directory on my HD
02:37 < garrick> johan: are you asking how to copy files?
02:37 < johan> kind of
02:37 < garrick> johan: 'cp '
02:37 < johan> but i need a short script so that i dont have to do it manually
02:38 < garrick> or 'cp '
02:38 < johan> ls -R > grep *pdf; for file in ; do cp $file /home/johan/Documents/PDF ; done
02:38 < johan> but does not work
02:38 < johan> theres too many pdf to do it by hand
02:38 < fluffy> egibbs/garrick: got it. misunderstood. thanks
02:38 < garrick> find /mnt/cdrom -name \*.pdf -exec cp {} /home/johan/Documents/PDF/ \;
02:39 < johan> great!
02:40 < garrick> or slightly less clean, but more intuitive: cp `find /mnt/cdrom -name \*.pdf` /home/johan/Documents/PDF/
02:42 < johan> cp: cannot create regular file `/home/johan/Documents/PDF/Ravallion.pdf': Permission denied
02:42 < McCheese> You're not root huh!
02:42 < johan> why is that
02:42 < garrick> johan: do you have permission to write to home/johan/Documents/PDF/?
02:43 < johan> yes
02:43 < garrick> McCheese: hopefully he doesn't need root to write to his own directory!
02:43 < McCheese> garrick: That's true.
02:43 < johan> its weird
02:43 < McCheese> garrick: I must remember that when I come upon that situation.
02:43 < garrick> johan: does /home/johan/Documents/PDF/Ravallion.pdf presently exist?
02:43 < johan> nope
02:44 < fluffy> does anyone know of a ref guide for ed? i'm having a hard time finding info about the program
02:44 < garrick> johan: 'touch /home/johan/Documents/PDF/foo', does that error?
02:44 < garrick> fluffy: 'info ed'
02:44 < johan> garrick no error
02:45 < johan> find /mnt/cdrom -name \*.pdf -exec cp {} /home/johan/Documents/PDF/ \;
02:45 < johan> is that right
NB:translation: How to pretend you can program while using mandrake, there has got to be an easier way to copy files from a directory :-)

03:46 < egibbs> ghost: have you used mc?
03:46 < ghost> what is mc?
03:47 < garrick> 'whatis mc' in your shell
03:47 < egibbs> Midnight commander --its a non GUI file manager
03:47 < foo> Has anyone installed pork on Mandrake? I seem to be having some strange problems
03:47 < egibbs> I dont use pork
03:48 < ghost> sorry i am using gentoo file manager.
03:48 < egibbs> ghost : You are not on mandrake!!
03:49 < garrick> gentoo has their own file manager?
03:49 < ghost> yes i am, dont confuse with the distribution!
03:49 < Roobarb> hey garrick
03:49 < virsys> egibbs: there is a filemanager called 'gentoo', nothing to do with the distro gentoo...
03:49 < garrick> hi roobarb
03:49 < egibbs> really - thanks
03:49 < ghost> thats it!
03:50 < ghost> urpmi gentoo
03:50 < egibbs> dosent stop you from trying mc
03:50 < ghost> you are wright
03:50 < ghost> doeste i comes with mandrake 10.o?
03:51 < virsys> filerunner is good, rox rocks, and xwc is also nice, in windowish way...
03:51 < egibbs> mc may have to be installed in 10 -- I am up on 9.1 right now so I cant check.
03:52 < ghost> i'm going to check.
NB:translation: I use gentoo also wait I meant the distro

14:25 < hsd> I have a wireless usb adapter (WUSB11 from linksys) which mandrake doesn't detect
14:26 < hsd> Though it detects the usb ports
14:26 < hsd> I can't seem to get the internet working on the machine because of that. Any ideas?
14:27 < hsd> I found a driver on the linksys site (http://www.linksys.com/download/driver.asp?dlid=51), should I just try installing that?
14:27 < hsd> Will I need to do a kernel recompile?
14:37 < hsd> Where can I find out whether linux supports my video card (geforce mx 4000)?
14:38 < hsd> It detects the card (in harddrake), but doesn't seem to detect a module for it.
14:40 * DoppelGanger wonders why hsd would use a windows exe driver in linux
14:40 < DoppelGanger> hsd: is your X working
14:40 < DoppelGanger> he he
14:41 < hsd> DoppelGanger: The graphical interface works fine
14:42 < DoppelGanger> then what are you talking about modules for
14:42 < DoppelGanger> if you gui works fine then your graphics card is working
14:42 < DoppelGanger> what you are thinking about is teh nividia drivers
14:42 < DoppelGanger> which create a module from your kernel source
14:42 < noob_> DoppelGanger, must be that he's using generic or something
14:42 < hsd> When I was testing some games on KDE, they lagged to hell
14:43 < DoppelGanger> install teh nvidia drivers
14:43 < DoppelGanger> for 3d
14:43 < hsd> Why would such a game like chromium lag with a 64 mb gfx card?
14:43 * DoppelGanger gives up since he's obviously being ignored
14:44 * DoppelGanger will now stop telling you how to stop the lag
14:44 < noob_> hsd, install the drivers founf at nvidia site
14:44 < noob_> *found
14:44 < hsd> Alright, thanks.
14:45 < noob_> DoppelGanger, he/she really did ignore you
14:45 < DoppelGanger> yeah no kidding noob_
14:45 < hsd> Sorry, I misread what he wrote earlier.
NB:translation: Reasons helping n00bs suck. Number !, they are stupid.

15:25 < L4NC3R_[Givin_Up> what does mandrake have over debian?
15:26 < DoppelGanger> nada
15:26 < phlux> an operating system :\
15:26 < phlux> heh..Mandrake is really just easier.
15:26 < phlux> and it's got urpmi.
15:27 < DoppelGanger> L4NC3R_[Givin_Up: ask kojack27_FL
15:27 < HauntedUnix> L4NC3R_[Givin_Up: Debian has a sharper learning curve, Mandrake lets you learn alot easier
15:27 < Ath|_0N> kojack27_FL use deb?
15:27 < kojack27_FL> yep
15:27 < L4NC3R_[Givin_Up> how is it easier?
15:27 < HauntedUnix> L4NC3R_[Givin_Up: Mandrake has the disadvantage of running only on > i586, whereas debian runs on anything
15:27 < L4NC3R_[Givin_Up> oh
15:27 < Ath|_0N> kojack27_FL, ow
15:27 < Ath|_0N> and?
15:27 < kojack27_FL> ow ?
15:28 < HauntedUnix> L4NC3R_[Givin_Up: alot of the mandrake interface is very visual, very easy to use, it's wizardy.
15:28 < L4NC3R_[Givin_Up> I have 386 though
15:28 < L4NC3R_[Givin_Up> darn
15:28 < HauntedUnix> L4NC3R_[Givin_Up: What age is your processor?
15:28 < kojack27_FL> i found debian to be too ancient and not really stable
15:28 < L4NC3R_[Givin_Up> Pentium 2
15:28 < HauntedUnix> that's 586
15:28 < kojack27_FL> didnt like the way it ran
15:28 < Ath|_0N> kojack27_FL, lol
15:28 < HauntedUnix> 386 is ~33
15:28 < L4NC3R_[Givin_Up> oh
15:28 < HauntedUnix> I run a debian box and a mandrake box
15:28 < L4NC3R_[Givin_Up> which do u like better?
15:28 < kojack27_FL> but debian ppl will prolly say thats cuz i dont know what i am doing but whatever
15:29 < kojack27_FL> i was using ark and debian kept freezing on me
15:29 < L4NC3R_[Givin_Up> my friend set up my debian server and now he said f it cuz he got tired of it and now I'm tryin to learn
15:29 < HauntedUnix> L4NC3R_[Givin_Up: the debian box is a server, i'd never use it for a desktop, but it's alot easier for a headless server, mandrake is great for a desktop
15:29 < kojack27_FL> i really dont see muchg of a difference because i rarely use the wizzards on mdk
15:30 < L4NC3R_[Givin_Up> oj
15:30 < L4NC3R_[Givin_Up> oh
15:30 < kojack27_FL> u can learn on mdk or debian
15:30 < kojack27_FL> debian will just force you to learn cuz you dont have wizzards
15:30 < kojack27_FL> and with debian i got more dependencies issues than i have had with mdk
15:31 < kojack27_FL> prolly cuz i was using sid
15:31 < DoppelGanger> probably cause you didn't rtm
15:31 < HauntedUnix> L4NC3R_[Givin_Up: if you're learning, mandrake.
15:31 < kojack27_FL> didnt what?
NB:translation: You Know RTFM: READ THE FUCKING MANUAL For steps on how to bullshit please see above