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22:53 < gamerman> i got the linux version from aim.com but it asks for installation cd4 and i dontknow why
22:53 < crash3m> gamerman: go to the url CookieII just sent you in /msg, add a 'main' source, to urpmi, then do urpmi.removemedia cdrom4, then you should be able to urpmi gaim
22:53 < crash3m> Fenix_NBK_: if I remember/recall correctly
22:54 < Fenix_NBK_> ok, thx
22:54 < Fenix_NBK_> crash3m: how many months/years do you use Linux/Unix environment ?
22:55 < Chibix> do you, or have you?
22:55 < paraclito> I am about recompiling my kernel to the 2.6.8 version, If I just copy my original .config from the version mandrake installed, is it gonna work?
22:55 < greatscot> How hard is it to get a Red Hat RPM to run successfully on Mandrake 10.0 OE?
22:55 < crash3m> Fenix_NBK_: ~4 years 'hardcore' but off and on before then
22:55 < Chibix> Depends on if it's an mdk rpm
22:55 < Chibix> GreatScot, search for rpms with 'mdk' somewhere in the name.
22:55 < crash3m> greatscot: it'd be a lot easier to rebuild the .src.rpm and install that
22:56 < crash3m> paraclito: use make oldconfig
22:56 < Chibix> GreatScot, or see if you can't install the same thing with urpmi...
22:56 < Fenix_NBK_> ..and including the before then.. how much?
2:54 < Fenix_NBK_> ok, thx
22:54 < Fenix_NBK_> crash3m: how many months/years do you use Linux/Unix environment ?
22:55 < Chibix> do you, or have you?
22:55 < paraclito> I am about recompiling my kernel to the 2.6.8 version, If I just copy my original .config from the version mandrake installed, is it gonna work?
22:55 < greatscot> How hard is it to get a Red Hat RPM to run successfully on Mandrake 10.0 OE?
22:55 < crash3m> Fenix_NBK_: ~4 years 'hardcore' but off and on before then
22:55 < Chibix> Depends on if it's an mdk rpm
22:55 < Chibix> GreatScot, search for rpms with 'mdk' somewhere in the name.
22:55 < crash3m> greatscot: it'd be a lot easier to rebuild the .src.rpm and install that
22:56 < crash3m> paraclito: use make oldconfig
22:56 < Chibix> GreatScot, or see if you can't install the same thing with urpmi...
22:56 < Fenix_NBK_> ..and including the before then.. how much?
22:56 < greatscot> hmm... it just says RPM binary. maybe I better compile it myself.
22:56 < keyshawn2> uhh..anyone have any ideas/comments for me ?
22:57 < crash3m> keyshawn2: you never gave me the output of chkconfig --list | grep fam
22:57 < greatscot> Chibix: urpmi... I keep forgetting about urpmi. Thanks
22:57 < Fenix_NBK_> ohhh... 8 years actually !!! WOW...
22:57 < Fenix_NBK_> It seems I'm still in the "on-and-off" stage :)
22:57 < Chibix> urpmi is like the apt-get of the modern world.
22:58 < Chibix> ...and like the #evolve of the sane!
22:58 < Fenix_NBK_> urpmi is better than "yum" ?
22:58 < greatscot> Chibix: yeah, I know it is great, I just need to remember to use it.
22:58 * Chibix insults Debian and Gentoo in 1.5 statements.
22:58 < crash3m> Fenix_NBK_: it doesnt take much to be better than yum
22:58 < greatscot> Chibix: he he
22:58 < Chibix> urpmi *appname*
22:58 < crash3m> Chibix: evolve? I thought it was emerge?
22:59 < Fenix_NBK_> you mean... "yum" is bad design ?
22:59 < Chibix> Emerge, evolve, whatever. =p
22:59 < crash3m> ;)
22:59 < Fenix_NBK_> mmm... it's very strange, because RedHat and Fedora professional chose "yum"...
22:59 < Fenix_NBK_> *professionals
23:00 < crash3m> Fenix_NBK_: apt is much more powerful IMHO
23:00 < crash3m> and is available for FC and RH
23:00 < paraclito> FC?
23:01 < crash3m> fedora core
23:01 < paraclito> oh
23:01 < greatscot> So, what do you do when you urpmi an app, and you want the latest version, but urpmi only gets an outdated version?
23:02 < crash3m> greatscot: urpmi.update updates && urpmi --auto-select
23:05 < DoppelGanger> fedora core linux?
23:06 * DoppelGanger sees some weird stuff
23:06 < Fenix_NBK_> I said, Fedora Core developers chose yum, but it's strange, why they chose inferior technology?
23:07 < Fenix_NBK_> crash3m says, yum is not very good.
23:07 < Quan_lt> yum is python based right?
23:07 < Quan_lt> RH/FC prefers python based tools over perl, whereas mdk uses perl over python :)
23:07 < crash3m> Fenix_NBK_: I was expressing an opinion, apparently theirs differs
23:08 * DoppelGanger is enjoying the bs flame speech
NB: translation: I have been using FAKE LINUX for 4 years and all I have to show is this lousy T-Shirt. hmmm questions how to compile a kernel, how to compile a program. Damn those 4 years are paying off I sure hope if I ask those questions after 4 years someone knows the answer.

< kaloyer> fedora/ark/mandrake/knoppix are 2 newboie
< kaloyer> red hat 2
< kaloyer> and suse
< kaloyer> shit, ive used a lot
< kaloyer> freebsd is gentoo with a different idea
< gwalters> lol
< kaloyer> and worse portage
* gwalters is on gentoo and staying
< zdawg> gentoo rox
< kaloyer> morphix, gnoppix, all cds(bad)
< kaloyer> slackware = too hard to get my way
< kaloyer> yoper uses kde
< kaloyer> i am running out of distros
< kaloyer> debian = good, especially apt, but the "free-only" ticked me off
< kaloyer> i didnt like fbsds portage
< kaloyer> it was terrible
< kaloyer> classic, ./configure, make, make install
< kaloyer> for ppl who like the 80s
< kaloyer> a LOT
< kaloyer> ahh, i need something GOOD
< kaloyer> with good support, x.org kernel 2.6.7 openbox, perlpanel
< kaloyer> ooo, goosebimps
< kaloyer> bumps
< kaloyer> do u know anything about linux from scratch?
< eBopBob> ooh, sorry no i don't - there is however a forum about it at www.linuxquestions.org/questions
< kaloyer> maybe debian instead...
< eBopBob> What distro do you currently use?
< kaloyer> well, im using fedora as an "in betwee" distro
< kaloyer> between
< kaloyer> previously gentoo, arch, other stuff
< eBopBob> ahh k
< eBopBob> What you thinking of fc?
< kaloyer> u use debian, ever?
< kaloyer> no, fc is just to have something till i find a better distro
< eBopBob> Nope, sorry I haven't used debian
< eBopBob> It's me who you spoke to last night about xfce4 ;)
< kaloyer> i know
< kaloyer> maybe you had previously used it
< eBopBob> sorry nope, i haven't
< kaloyer> in another life even
< eBopBob> hehe
< eBopBob> So far only used SuSE, and can't wait to get rid of it
< kaloyer> go gentoo, takes forever but it rocks
< kaloyer> you have everything laid out easy
21:34 < stormrider> What a complainer huh? And a hypocritical one at that.
23:00 < DoppelGanger> yes certainly a bullshitter
NB: translation: An example of when the bullshit starts to pile up

03:09 < afrosheen> #debian is crazy
03:09 < Gumby> mikere: I am just over in vancouver myself
03:09 < Gumby> haha
03:09 < Gumby> #debian is crazy
03:09 < Gumby> so is #gentoo
03:10 < mikere> no idea, HauntedUnix, I've been popping in and out as I have to reboot because my attempts to run Doom3 keep locking this box up hard :)
03:10 < afrosheen> both are equally leet and zealotrous
03:10 < Gumby`> lol
03:10 < egibbs> zealotrous?
03:10 < HauntedUnix> www.dictionary.com :P
03:11 <@trappist> zealotrous?
03:11 <@trappist> actually it is
03:11 < afrosheen> trappist: it's my coined term of the day
03:11 < afrosheen> when did doom3 for linux get released?
03:11 <@trappist> afrosheen: try zealous, it's already been coined :)
03:11 <@trappist> afrosheen: it hasn't, but it can be made to run in winex
03:17 < mo-oz> You don't have to configure X in Mandrake do you?
03:17 < HauntedUnix> mo-oz: er, you run Drakconf, so theres little 'configuring', mostly wizard based, easy as pi..e
03:18 < mo-oz> It's nothing like the X configuration in Slackware, right?
03:18 < afrosheen> mo-oz: haha no no no not that tricky
03:18 < mikere> HauntedUnix, you mean easy as 3.1415925828?
03:19 < HauntedUnix> mikere: no, I mean as easy as 3.141592653589793238...
03:19 < mo-oz> Ah I should be able to handle it then.
03:22 < afrosheen> mo-oz: the mandrake installer is one of the easiest ever
03:23 < HauntedUnix> "It's so easy, it makes getting into Monica Lewinski's underwear look difficult"
03:24 < mo-oz> afrosheen, Thats good then.
NB: translation: Notice the hypocracy at its best. Side note I had to help trappist get his gentoo system running, I am guessing it didn't last long since the fucker didn't even know how to configure X

11:44 < matt2k22> With mandrake 10 how can I install just one keneral
NB: translation: well um you have to first have some fucking common sense

10:15 < irbdavid> mandrake gurus- how do i disable kudzu / whatever the mandrake equivalent is?
10:16 < irbdavid> HauntedUnix, so that command lists self-professed gurus?
10:17 < HauntedUnix> irbdavid: it lists gurus on various topics, doesn't work very well
10:17 < _darren> i dont actually understand what a guru is - we all only have knowledge of whta we have experienced
10:18 < irbdavid> might need his help next year...
10:19 < HauntedUnix> Morn hasn't been around for 27 weeks
10:19 < _darren> an example of what i mean is, on alt.os.linux.mandrake, there's a guy called bill unruh - this guy has books published on linux, yet he still has to ask questions now and then
10:19 < irbdavid> i guess that sony dont write their own linux drivers?
10:19 < HauntedUnix> _darren: it's only a demonstration of who can help on a given subject
10:19 < irbdavid> _darren, a guru has more experience than most, i guess is the definition
10:20 < irbdavid> no-one's going to be in possession of complete knowledge on all of mandrake, because that'd involve tonnes of stuff
10:20 < _darren> i spose the all-rounder has to be someone working in a networking environment
10:20 < irbdavid> a big sysadmin doing more than just minor network-related stuff
10:21 < irbdavid> or a mandrake developer of whatever your problem is
10:21 < _darren> thats what i mean
10:21 < HauntedUnix> Hey, I may be completely useless at answering questions in any form, but I try ;)
10:21 < DoppleGanger> corrects irbdavid he means tons of wizards
10:22 < _darren> oh, i'll try, i love a new thing to get my teeth into
10:22 < optimism_> ARGH
10:22 < HauntedUnix> uh oh, sounds like optimism_ needs help..
10:22 < HauntedUnix> I'm gone
10:22 < HauntedUnix> :P
NB: translation: DoppelGanger knows a guru named Bill Gates

12:39 < comptoyou> I m beyond help
12:40 < comptoyou> I got acrobat installed but it does not show the red check mark when I go to check for plug in
12:42 < comptoyou> do you run realplayer 10 HauntedUnix
12:50 * Ath|_0N thinks she doesn't even use X
12:50 < HauntedUnix> She?
12:50 < comptoyou> what X ?
12:52 < Ath|_0N> comptoyou, what is X? umm r'you using linux?
NB: translation: Ath|_0N> what is X? a letter on the alphabet? (what more could I say:-))

16:18 < doug_> my isp says my mandrake box has been hacked and is spaming... what is the best way to find out if it was booted under mandrake or windows when this happened?
NB:translation: How to get hacked. Chapter 1 Use Mandrake

18:28 < Fenderx> why ismy urpmi database locked
18:28 < Fenderx> ?
18:29 < garrick> because you have a urpmi program running somewhere
18:29 < Fenderx> hmm
18:29 -!- Fenderx [~rick@S01060010dcf39cd5.vf.shawcable.net] has quit ["Leaving"]
18:30 < RogueDopple> gee i hope he realizes his mistake ha ha
18:31 -!- Fenderx [~rick@S01060010dcf39cd5.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #Mandrake
18:32 < Fenderx> okay i have no clue where urpmi is running if i ended my session
18:32 < Fenderx> anyone know what I can do?
18:32 < garrick> Fenderx: 'ps auxw | grep urpm'
18:32 < garrick> Fenderx: or 'ps auxw | grep rpm'
18:32 < Fenderx> oot 3752 0.0 0.1 1936 636 pts0 S 15:32 0:00 grep urpm
18:33 < Fenderx> root 3754 0.0 0.1 1936 636 pts1 S 15:32 0:00 grep rpm
18:33 < garrick> did you kill -9 a urpm process?
18:33 < Fenderx> no, i clicked the X in the corner of the window
NB: translation: mwa ha ha ha, What a fucking idiot

23:32 < jonshu21> Why can's I get into my Mandrake 10.0 GUI!?!?! I set all the config settings to the lowest, but it only recognizes the screen
23:48 < jonshu21> Why can's I get into my Mandrake 10.0 GUI!?!?! I set all the config settings to the lowest, but it only recognizes the screen. Any ideas?
23:50 < DoppelGanger> so X did work
23:50 < DoppelGanger> then it stopped
23:50 < DoppelGanger> and you altered teh file hmm
23:50 < jonshu21> no
23:51 < jonshu21> like it was on earlier, and then I turned it off to install a ethernet card, then when it booted up, it went to the command terminal
23:51 < egibbs> jonshu21 : did you do a ps ux?
23:51 < jonshu21> and I have messed with all the x -configs
23:52 < jonshu21> egibbs: ps ux? sorry, this is my first distro, I am a bit new
NB: translation: NO you are a bit fucked

solo_> [solo@x1-6-00-c0-4f-40-a2-47 solo]$ sshd&
solo_> [1] 2693
solo_> [solo@x1-6-00-c0-4f-40-a2-47 solo]$ bash: sshd: command not found
solo_> ?
lordnothing> solo_: you have to start it as root
NB: translation: World Class Idiot

16:43 * DoppelGanger is asumming it is moutned
16:43 < DoppelGanger> doh
16:43 < DoppelGanger> spelling
16:43 < solo_> [root@x1-6-00-c0-4f-40-a2-47 solo]# cd /mnt/hd2/
16:43 < solo_> [root@x1-6-00-c0-4f-40-a2-47 hd2]# ls -a
16:43 < solo_> [root@x1-6-00-c0-4f-40-a2-47 hd2]#
16:43 < solo_> nothin
16:43 < DoppelGanger> umount it then mount it manually
16:43 < solo_> with umount and mount like gentoo?
16:44 * DoppelGanger is embarassed
16:44 < tvon> heh
16:44 < DoppelGanger> gentoo's good name being smacked
16:44 < DoppelGanger> yes umount
16:44 < DoppelGanger> and mount
16:44 < DoppelGanger> oh yeah what is the device name of this partition
NB: translation: I looked this up in the dictionary it said CLUELESS

 
 
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