..:::.. .:..::..:.. :...::...
     
  DoppelGanger  
  PnP = Plug aNd Phone...  

14:24 -!- Taz [~t_a_hassa@cpc3-nfds8-4-0-cust55.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #linuxforum
14:24 < foureyes779> heh
14:24 < Taz> Src stands for what?
14:24 * foureyes779 sits here and watches Q-collective sit there
14:25 < Taz> hey foureyes what does Src stand for?
14:25 < foureyes779> Taz: more than likely it's Source
14:25 < Taz> that is what i think as well
14:25 < Taz> what about Bin?
14:26 < foureyes779> where are you seeing that at ?
14:26 < Taz> i am trying to setup Cygwin
14:26 < jinXKat> ah ha
14:26 < foureyes779> fun...
14:29 < Taz> yeah i will install all of it
14:29 < foureyes779> the nice thing abt Cygwin is the porting of linux/unix commands
14:30 < Taz> yeah last time i was trying to use make and i then found out that i hadnt installed it!
14:30 < foureyes779> you can also run KDE with Cygwin now
14:30 < Taz> yeah but what is the command
14:30 < foureyes779> startx
14:31 < Taz> hmm...
14:31 < Taz> how do u go about using cygwin as in how do i go and find out about the commands etc
14:31 < Taz> is there an online manual?
14:32 < jinXKat> www.google.com
14:32 < jinXKat> :-)
14:32 < Taz> lol
NB: Translation: Use the SRC Luke

14:40 < Taz> in linux how do u change the drive that one is on?
14:40 < jinXKat> huh
14:40 < jinXKat> get a screwdriver
14:40 < jinXKat> or was that drink a screwdriver
14:40 < Taz> from C drive to D
14:41 < Taz> hey
14:41 < Q-collective> jinXKat: a what?
14:41 < jinXKat> a screwdriver
14:41 < Q-collective> .google screwdriver
14:41 <@Sydney-Bristow> http://twig.screwdriver.net/
14:41 < Taz> hey tell me mam
14:41 < jinXKat> http://www.drinknation.com/drink/Screwdriver
14:42 < Q-collective> jinXKat: heh
14:42 < jinXKat> forget you ruined the entire pun of both sentences
14:42 < Taz> so how to u change the drive then
14:43 < Squall`> Taz, Linux does have a 'c drive' or a 'd drive'
14:43 < Q-collective> doesn't*
14:43 < Squall`> err, thanks
14:43 < Taz> as in change the partition
14:43 < Taz> on the hard driven
14:43 < Taz> drive*
14:43 < Squall`> your hard disks are located at /dev
14:43 < Squall`> they start with /dev/hda
14:43 < Squall`> and go down from there
14:43 < Q-collective> /dev/hda1 /dev/hda2 etc
14:44 < Taz> i am confused
14:44 < jinXKat> thts why you should use linux not cygwin
14:44 < Taz> yeah
14:44 < jinXKat> he he
14:44 < Q-collective> linux doesn't have a seperate tree
14:44 < Q-collective> it has 1 tree
14:44 < Squall`> a is the first hard disk, 1 means the first partition
14:44 < jinXKat> well a distro anyways
14:44 < Taz> what does dev stand for
14:44 < Squall`> device
14:45 < Taz> oh now i get it all
14:45 < Q-collective> Taz: however, /dev are just the devices, you don't write to them. When you want to use the partitions, you can mount them
14:45 < Taz> what about file:/ ??
14:45 < Squall`> file:/ is a URI
14:45 < Squall`> not a location
14:45 < Taz> how do i change the directory in the shell to that URL then
14:45 < Q-collective> /dev/hdb4 is a location
14:46 < Q-collective> :)
NB: translation: Mommy please let the hurting stop, I think I drank too much screwdrivers

22:30 -!- jedi0473 [~bootertro@217.149.144.146] has joined #linuxbeginner
22:31 < jedi0473> hi
22:31 < jedi0473> a question
22:31 < jedi0473> i want to install a donwload manager
22:32 < morph_> yeah...
22:33 < jedi0473> any suggestion
22:33 < DoppleGanger> wtf
22:33 < DoppleGanger> jedi0473: windows
22:33 < jedi0473> which 1 is a good option
22:33 < DieRatte> jedi0473, are you sure you are in the right channel?
22:33 < morph_> what are you trying to do, and on which distro?
22:33 < jedi0473> ´cause thers some of them
22:33 < jedi0473> in linux
22:33 < jedi0473> fd3
22:33 < DoppleGanger> asks again
22:33 < DoppleGanger> windows?
22:33 < DoppleGanger> eh eh
22:34 < jedi0473> no
22:34 < morph_> If you are looking for a application to download software, get yum
22:34 * DoppleGanger cannot process the idea of such things
22:34 < jedi0473> a linux box
22:34 < DieRatte> well, doesnt come mozilla, opera and firefox with a download manager
22:34 < DoppleGanger> how strange a download manager
22:34 < DoppleGanger> DieRatte: sure do
22:34 < DieRatte> well, what else do you need then
22:35 < jedi0473> well i used the 1 that comes with mozilla
22:35 < morph_> jedi0473: please explain what exactly it is you are looking for... we get easily confused around here :-)
22:35 < DoppleGanger> DieRatte: he needs gozilla
22:35 < jedi0473> but after make a click on pause
22:35 < DieRatte> DoppleGanger, the gian monkey?
22:35 < jedi0473> i can resume
22:35 < jedi0473> i can resume
22:35 < jedi0473> i mean cant
22:36 < DoppleGanger> hmm works fine in my firefox
22:36 < DoppleGanger> how about everyone else
22:36 < DoppleGanger> hmm works fine in opera also
22:36 < morph_> jedi0473: what dopple said.
22:36 < DieRatte> works fine in opera
22:36 < morph_> I have no problems with firefox
22:36 < jedi0473> so i have to start all over again
22:36 < DoppleGanger> sounds like a fedora problem to me
22:36 < jedi0473> perhaps i need to reinstalled
22:36 < DoppleGanger> how did you install firefox
22:36 < jedi0473> yep
22:37 < jedi0473> it seems s
22:37 < DieRatte> jedi0473, there are very few things in linux that requiere a reinstall
22:37 < jedi0473> its the 1 that comes with the core
22:38 < DoppleGanger> yep crap
NB: translation: http://gozilla.com, Ah windows mentality, how provincial

11:10 < jedi0473> hi
11:13 < jedi0473> i downoaded beatrix and made a check sum
11:13 < jedi0473> its s fine
11:13 < jedi0473> but when i try to run the livecd
11:14 < jedi0473> it was unabe to find the cdunit
11:14 < jedi0473> despite found it but just stopped and nothing hpedden
11:16 < jedi0473> my lap boots from the cdrom unit
11:16 -!- jedi0473 [~bootertro@217.149.144.146] has left #linuxbeginner []
NB: translation: 11:31 < gn00b> that's right...it is sunday

12:44 < thechitowncubs> amiroff: how do I access it from windows?
12:44 < DoppelGanger> see #windows
12:45 < amiroff> DoppelGanger: that guy does not deserve that answer
NB: translation: $uname -r 2.6.X-Linux-Debian-3.1

12:50 < Plexys> amiroff: sorry for my newbieness, but what do you mean by blah? my user home folder?
12:50 < amiroff> Plexys: yeah :)
12:50 < Plexys> amiroff: that directory doesn't exist
12:51 < Plexys> amiroff: some wiki told me to copy it into 'fonts:///', which is a valid location on my pc, because all the fonts appear
12:51 < DoppelGanger> ha
12:51 < Plexys> amiroff: however, the problem is that when i try to paste a file into that directory it won't appear
12:51 < DoppelGanger> some wikis are dependable sources
12:51 < amiroff> Plexys: if there is no .fonts dir, just create it
12:51 < DoppelGanger> then again some wikis just plain suck
NB: translation: I wonder why /blah/homefolder does not exist

13:13 < a_monkey> where's the file that gnome-terminal uses to remember all of the commands i've ever executed?
13:14 < resiak> a_monkey: .bash_history . man bash
13:14 < DoppelGanger> finds a_monkey question quite amusing
NB: translation: 13:14 < DoppelGanger> damn tht gnome-terminal

13:16 < kippi> how do you set-up ssh?
13:16 < crimsun> kippi: the server? aptitude install openssh-server
13:16 < kippi> crimsun: ah ok
13:19 < kippi> if i am in a ssh login how would I su?
13:19 -!- dj-death [~dtc@djdeath.dyndns.org] has left #ubuntu ["your distro sux"]
13:19 < djm62> kippi: sudo, same as usual
13:19 < DoppelGanger> ha ha
NB: translation: Tht installs it but doesn't quote unquote set it up. Unless its just me. djm62 is the man he he

13:20 < vanQ> excuse me
13:20 < vanQ> I just downloaded ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso
13:20 < vanQ> Live CD
13:20 < vanQ> it's a .rar
13:20 < vanQ> or wopsie
13:20 < vanQ> nothing
13:20 < vanQ> forget it
13:20 < DoppelGanger> ha ha
NB: translation: Idiot

22:52 < cheryl> I have a question about installing aim on ubuntu 5.04
22:53 < cheryl> On ubuntu linux 5.04
22:53 < cheryl> I installed aim as root
22:53 < cheryl> unzip -c aim-1.5.234-1.i386.tgz | tar xvf -
22:53 < cheryl> Then as the user
22:53 < cheryl> cheryl@cheryls:~$ /usr/local/bin/aim
22:53 < cheryl> /usr/local/bin/aim: error while loading shared libraries: libgdk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
22:53 < inc> gaim
22:53 < cheryl> I searched the whole disk for this library and it is not there.
22:53 < cheryl> What should I do?
22:54 < nickrud> cheryl, http:/debian/distrib/packages will let you search for packages that have files. Look in the unstable distribution.
22:54 < inc> use synaptic to install gaim
22:54 < KernelPanic> cheryl: just install gaim
22:54 < inc> actually should be installed with hoary already
22:54 < nickrud> the files you nedd :)
22:55 < inc> apps> internet> gaim
22:55 < cheryl> thanks I just found that
22:55 < cheryl> gaim works
22:55 < KernelPanic> :D
22:55 < inc> yeah it rox
22:55 < inc> ubuntu's got your back lol
22:55 < DoppelGanger> pukes
22:55 < cheryl> this is the best linux install. Everything I need is already here
22:56 < inc> DoppelGanger: lol
22:56 < DoppelGanger> oh god stop it, it hurts
22:57 < cheryl> so long bill gates, no more $$$ from me. I will donate soon to ubuntu
22:57 < inc> lol
22:57 < inc> you can donate to me even though I haven't done anything
NB: translation: 22:57 < DoppelGanger> :-( FUCK TWAT

22:58 < cheryl> I tried sUSE on my machine and it couldn't see my disk to install
22:59 < cheryl> I spent a week trying to partition and any trick I could think of
NB: translation: uhuh, I once knew a blonde who thought a quarterback was a refund.

15:29 < Zugot> does anyone ask any linux questions anymore or is it all... how do i install my cd burner? why doesn't hoary work?
15:29 < slappy17> lol....well
15:29 < slappy17> ubuntu targets newbs
15:29 < thundrcleeze> Aren't those linux questions?
15:29 < thundrcleeze> :)
15:29 < slappy17> might have to go over to #debian
15:29 < navreet> Ubuntu rox
15:29 < seeker> why didn't rebooting solve the problem?
15:29 < slappy17> no, they're app questions
15:29 < heftigrat_> hey all, n e 1 know how to get rid of wine err: "wine: cannot find 'regedit'" ?
15:29 < slappy17> rebooting didnt solve it because it isnt win98
15:29 < navreet> sladen, ?? I've been using linux for years
15:30 < seeker> well, thanks for solving by problem anyway.
15:30 < navreet> sladen, I love it...
15:30 < djm62> seeker: maybe skype is crashing on startup...
15:30 < Zugot> #debian is a mean awful place
15:30 < drspin> so I installed lame -- I installed Grip -- for some reason grip tells me that it can't find lame
15:30 < thundrcleeze> Rebooting worked for me, but I had to reboot 5 times for the fix to work.
15:30 < slappy17> lol..ya
15:30 < slappy17> they're jerks
15:30 < djm62> seeker: so you reboot, and the exact same thing happens
15:30 < Zugot> plus i'm already in 7 channels
15:30 < slappy17> but, straight forward
15:30 < RogueDopple> ha reboot
15:30 < b0ol> which programm can i use for file sharing?
15:30 < ompaul> Zugot, so be happy with how does my CD work :)
15:30 < navreet> sladen, it's targetting people like me too [who don't have to have to edit config files [gentoo], or have 3 year old distro [debian])
15:30 < RogueDopple> this is windows
15:30 < slappy17> lol, ompaul
15:30 < seeker> #debian is a mean awful place <--- lol
15:30 < Zugot> ompaul: :P
15:31 < navreet> slappy17, , I love it...
15:31 * ompaul shudders I just saw the g****o word on screen
15:31 < thundrcleeze> I agree, slappy, they're not newbie friendly.
NB: translation: Welcome to #windows

22:39 < TestDummy> I add the line to /etc/fstab to mount ntfs, but on reboot it says something like "mount point /media/windows does not exist"
22:39 < pixil9> TestDummy, mkdir /media/windows
22:39 < DoppelGanger> TestDummy: truly you have earned your name
22:39 < TestDummy> I have =|
22:39 < TestDummy> This isn't the only time I've been an idiot
22:40 < TestDummy> pixil9: Is that it if the line is already in /etc/fstab?
NB: translation: Only a dumb fuck would ask such a question

21:05 < XTCboarder> how do i restart network interfaces?
21:06 < SeamusLP> XTCboarder: /etc/init.d/ifupdown restart just to be different ;)
21:06 < XTCboarder> thx
NB: Translation: Congratulations you just restarted loopback, Debian by the way

i8b4uUnderground> d-_-b
BonyNoMore> how u make that inverted b?
BonyNoMore> wait
BonyNoMore> never mind
NB: translation: Eureka I have discovered light

15:34 < Resonant> Anyone remember the Active Desktop feature from Windows 98+? Is their any replacement for that in Linux
NB: Translation: yeah rm -rf /*

16:56 < Raccoon> hey, it's my first time installing a linux desktop :p
16:56 < rickcp> heh
16:56 < Raccoon> mainly because i could never get my wireless card working in it till today
16:59 < DoppelGan> Raccoon: wht linux desktop, ubuntu?
16:59 < Raccoon> looks like me ports forward nicely
16:59 < Raccoon> Xandros (looks like debian w/ KDE)
17:00 < Raccoon> a very nice package
17:00 < Raccoon> installing applications is as easy as it is in windows
17:00 < Raccoon> and 10 times faster than redhat
17:10 < Raccoon> so rickcp, do you know anything about executing commands at startup?
17:10 < Raccoon> so I don't have to manually start my network card by command
17:10 < rickcp> in linux?
17:10 < Raccoon> right
17:11 < rickcp> not a clue
17:11 < Raccoon> hmm
17:11 < Raccoon> mirc has a problem saving logs in linux
17:12 < Raccoon> it tries using \ not /
NB: translation: Fake Debian + Mirc = IDIOT

Apr 23 08:50:35 lilo okay, this is weird
Apr 23 08:50:35 lilo checking whether build environment is sane... configure: error: newly created file is older than distributed files!
Apr 23 08:50:35 lilo Check your system clock
Apr 23 08:50:35 lilo make: *** [config.status] Error 1
Apr 23 08:50:35 lilo I'm in a chroot and the time has been set by ntpd
Apr 23 08:50:35 * blubb has quit (Remote closed the connection)
Apr 23 08:50:35 l lilo make: Warning: File `configure' has modification time 18 s in the future
Apr 23 08:50:35 hparker That's... Uh... Wierd
NB: translation: Lilo from freenode.net, um your like RETARDED

20:27 -!- _josh [~josh@70-58-80-154.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #linuxforums
20:28 < _josh> where are all the "common programs" stored?
20:29 < _josh> /usr/share/bin?
20:32 < CyrexVira> _josh: define common programs
NB: translation: c:\Program Files\

18:02 < adrenaline> I think redhat fedora and slack make good secure boxes
18:02 <+stormrider> Not redhat or Fedora.
18:02 < adrenaline> I am running redhat Fedora boxes have been for years
18:03 < adrenaline> been hacked twice both times were my fault wu-ftp
18:03 < adrenaline> both time RH 7.0
18:03 < adrenaline> now I close all ports not being used.
18:04 < adrenaline> run nothing in root
NB: translation: Dumbass, redhat/fedora + secure = OXYFUCKINGMORON

17:00 < DoppleGanger> http://www.shorewall.net/FAQ.htm Luke i bet it is on this page somewhere
17:00 < DoppleGanger> i fouhnd it
17:00 < DoppleGanger> can you
17:00 < DoppleGanger> mwa ha ha ha
17:01 < Luke> DoppleGanger: ...no
17:01 < Luke> DoppleGanger: so your saying you found where they defined their pre-defined rules at and there is one for passive?
17:03 < Luke> DoppleGanger: thats what i thought...
17:03 < DoppleGanger> no i am saying i found the shorewall default rule sets
17:03 < DoppleGanger> shorewall has nada to do with vsftp passive
17:03 < DoppleGanger> bla bla bla
17:04 < Luke> DoppleGanger: different ports are used in passive ftp... that *does* have to do with my firewall
17:04 < DoppleGanger> and until you read the manulas Luke i am just gonna continue our dance
17:04 < Luke> DoppleGanger: if you'd care to point out to me where it says about their pre-defined rules for passive ftp i'd be much abliged but i still cannot find it
17:05 < DoppleGanger> www.fuckinggoogleit.com
17:05 < Luke> DoppleGanger: so i'm still waiting for you to send me a simple link... or are you too above that?
17:05 < blackace> DoppleGanger: language.
17:05 < Luke> DoppleGanger: that was unacceptable
17:05 < Luke> DoppleGanger: there's no need for that
17:05 < Luke> please take the swearing somewhere else
17:05 < Chipper02> DoppleGanger... languages dude...
17:05 < DoppleGanger> thts a url
17:05 < DoppleGanger> i swear
17:05 < blackace> DoppleGanger: do I look like I care?
17:05 < Luke> DoppleGanger: we dont need that in here
17:05 < Ferret> DoppleGanger: We know you swear, that's the problem.
NB: translation: www.fuckinggoogleit.com